John Redmond and Home Rule – “a distinct Irish destiny”.

“Was Home Rule then to be a means, not of fulfilling a distinct Irish destiny, but of strengthening a wider sense of Britishness, making Ireland at last a contented province of Britain?” (Boyce 1986:236)

“The answer, of course, was ‘No’, even if John Redmond and the Irish Parliamentary Party wrestled with those contradictions in a more thoroughgoing, sophisticated and independent-minded way than later national historiography ever gave them credit for doing. The view has gained ground in more recent historical reassessment that by 1914 they had within their grasp at least as much as was to be achieved, after so much bloodshed, in 1921. Certainly they had mapped out the achievable far more clearly than had the architects of the 1916 Rising, or those who inspired the losing side in the Civil War.”

Stephen Howe Ireland and Empire Oxford. p.41.


Ireland and Empire: Colonial Legacies in Irish History and CultureChronicon Review, 1999

Ireland and Empire: Colonial Legacies in Irish History and Culture – Amazon Review


Any mature look back at 1916 must honour Redmond – Read more >

John Redmond: Discarded Leader – Read more >


The royal visit: where do we go from here?

J.P. Walsh – 22 May 2011

On June 22, 1921, when he opened Stormont, King George V said, ‟I appeal to all Irishmen to pause, to stretch out the hand of forbearance and conciliation, to forgive and forget and to join in making for the land which they love a new era of peace, contentment and goodwill.” On 18th May 2011, at a State Dinner in Dublin Castle, Queen Elizabeth II said, “Indeed, so much of this visit reminds us of the complexity of our history, its many layers and traditions, but also the importance of forbearance and conciliation – of being able to bow to the past, but not be bound by it.”

I understand that England withdrew from Ireland gradually during the 19th century and this culminated in the Home Rule process, the emergence of Northern Ireland and then the Irish Free State and its evolution into the Republic of Ireland. The latest manifestation of English support for Ireland is a royal visit, following on the Good Friday Agreement and subsequent Anglo-Irish agreements. It appears to me that the London government wishes all of Ireland well. I believe that the UK government seeks and has always sought to protect the Irish population from the consequences of Irish extremist positions, tensions and actions from whatever group these arise. Royal utterances reflect this position very clearly.

I come from an Roman Catholic background and I find the church in Ireland and the Catholic population have changed in thinking and religious practice way beyond anything I would have ever dreamed possible as I matured during the 1950s and 1960s. This deep change in belief and practice has changed Ireland profoundly. I feel the mainstream Irish population is now very similar to the mainstream English population in religious attitude. Perhaps the majority of English people would describe themselves as ‘C of E’, but set foot in church only very rarely. Similarly, most Irish people would now describe themselves as Catholic but only set foot in church very rarely.

Now that Irish ‘difference’ is so much reduced, I believe that many, indeed perhaps most, Irish people have discovered that the UK is no longer threatening in any way to their sense of identity. The Irish population have in fact become more English in attitude and behaviour. This is not surprising as the population of Southern Ireland is largely English in origin anyway. Hence the success of the Queen’s visit.

I find myself asking, is Ireland now returning to the relationship with England which Ireland threw away so thoughtlessly after 1920? The Queen’s visit symbolises to me some sort of very belated effort by the Irish – and very much encouraged by London – to try to repair some of the damage. Everything to do with the Queen’s visit shouts out to me that Ireland should never have left the UK. The shared history is just too profound.

In 1911, Ireland was a united country and a free democracy. Order was kept by largely RC police forces. Ireland had religious freedom, freedom of speech and was economically pretty prosperous. Irish government was simple, cheap and efficient, and Ireland was well defended. By 1923, Ireland found herself divided into two sectarian states because of the stupidity of many Irish people. By 1931, basic freedoms were curtailed throughout the island. Many had died violently, so the most basic freedom – the right to life itself – was no longer guaranteed. Ireland was determined to cut herself off from her main markets, and sought to undermine her own defence. Common citizenship with the UK was thrown away. Eventually an uneasy sort of peace developed which ended in 1969 with the resurgence of yet more trouble. More deaths have occurred since 1969 than took place in the 1916 to 1923 troubles.

No wonder the extreme Irish republicans protest the visit as it shows the failure of this form of republicanism so clearly. Sadly, Ireland can scarcely be described as normal when the Queen has to drive around in an armoured Range Rover through cleared streets and the public are not allowed near her. Curiously enough though, the Queen was allowed to mingle with ordinary people in the streets of ‘rebel Cork’!

William Hague remarked in Dublin last week that there are 6 million UK residents who are Irish born, or with Irish parents or grandparents (figures from Foreign Secretary Hague). That fact speaks volumes.

For me, the royal visit underlines the failure of Irish dreams and the strength of English pragmatism.

Where do we go from here?

 

John Redmond: Discarded Leader

Article by Stephen Collins – Studies Irish Review

John Redmond died in March 1918, a political failure and a broken man. In the years that followed his death the tolerant values of parliamentary politics that he stood for were, temporarily, pushed aside in a bloody tide of revolutionary violence. While an independent Irish state was established on sound democratic principles, after a vicious civil war, Redmond’s memory was systematically buried and his contribution to the independence movement ignored.

The 1916 leaders, who had effectively rebelled against him, and not simply against the British Government, became the icons of the new state. Their cult of blood sacrifice was adopted as the national myth even though the Free State quickly developed into a functioning parliamentary democracy that owed very little to the revolutionary values of 1916.

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Ruth Dudley Edwards: I’m proud to be Irish – and I’m proud to be British too

We are not the most oppressed people ever, in fact, we are among the least oppressed, says Ruth Dudley Edwards

Sunday Independent – May 22 2011  

JOHN, an old friend, English and well-informed about history, rang me on Wednesday night to rant about the coverage of the Queen’s visit.

“Dammit!” he cried. “They’re going on about the 1916 executions without mentioning that this insurrection took place when the UK was fighting for its life! Maybe it was unwise to hang or shoot these people, but surely it’s understandable. It’s being presented as an atrocity, which it bloody wasn’t.”

I agreed with him. I’m always annoyed at our lack of perspective about the wrongs done us by our colonisers. Look, every country in the world has trouble with the neighbours. We had only one neighbour, so all our grievances are focused in one direction. What do you think it was like being Poland? What do you think Germany or France would have done in the face of an armed revolt when they were fighting a war in a place they thought was part of their territory? They would have rounded up all the rebels and killed the lot, that’s what.

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The Queen’s Irish blood

The Irish Times – Saturday, May 21, 2011

Madam, – While we are all re-evaluating the Queen as someone who might actually like Ireland, it might be timely to summarise her extensive Irish ancestry.

The two great Norman families of medieval Ireland were the Butlers and the Fitzgeralds. The Queen directly descends from both many times. The most recent descents I can see for her are from James Butler, 1st Duke of Ormonde (died 1688), from James Fitzgerald, 10th Earl of Desmond (died 1529) and from Gerald Fitzgerald, 11th Earl of Kildare (died 1585). Through the latter she descends from Irish heroes Garret Mor Fitzgerald, 8th Earl of Kildare, and Garret Og Fitzgerald, 9th Earl of Kildare. Her ancestor Baron Portlester lies in a spectacular tomb in St Audoen’s church on High Street in Dublin.

In terms of Gaelic families, the Queen descends (remarkably) from the rebel Hugh O’Neill, Earl of Tyrone (died 1616) and also from Diarmaid O’Brien, 5th Baron of Inchiquin (died 1624). Through the latter she descends from Connor O’Brien, King of Thomond (died 1540) and Domnall Mor O’Brien, King of Thomond (died 1194). Ultimately, she descends from Aoife Mac Murrough (who married Strongbow in 1170) and from Brian Boru, High King of Ireland (died 1014).

In fact, Ireland is littered with her ancestral homes and her ancestors’ tombs. Her most recent Irish-born ancestor was apparently Richard Wellesley, 1st Marquess Wellesley (died 1842). Given all this, it does seem unfair that she was never allowed visit her ancestral homeland until now. – Yours, etc,

Dr MARK HUMPHRYS,

School of Computing,

Dublin City University,

Glasnevin, Dublin 9.

The Queen’s visit: let us look forward

The Reform Group, which works for reconciliation and respect for the different traditions on this island and between Ireland and Great Britain, warmly welcomes the visit of Queen Elizabeth II. This is the first visit to our country by a British monarch for 100 years and is well overdue. During her time as monarch, Queen Elizabeth has visited 129 countries, so this visit will mark the 130th country she has visited.

She is a dignified and compassionate monarch who bears us nothing but goodwill and her visit will help to symbolise the deeply interwoven nature of the families and nations on the two islands. Relations between Ireland and the UK are deep and very close. There are some 6 million people of Irish descent living in the UK.

We are sure she will get a warm welcome and command the respect and admiration of virtually everyone in this country.

John Major played a huge and unacknowledged role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland. He was interviewed on BBC Newsnight on 15 May and said the Queen ‘looks forward’. Let us all now look forward, putting old grievances behind us, and build on the deep ties that join us together on these islands.

Céad mile fáilte.

Robin Bury, Chairman, Reform Group

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Letter published in the Irish Independent, and in the Irish Times letters page under the heading Queen Elizabeth’s visit

 

Ireland and the Commonwealth – Towards Membership

2009 marked the 60th anniversary of Ireland’s departure from the Commonwealth, and many Reform members were enthusiastically involved in this year’s campaign to encourage Ireland to now consider returning to the Commonwealth.

A joint letter to the Irish Times (3 March 2009) set out some of the main reasons to consider rejoining, and was signed by leading public figures from all parts of Ireland and these islands – including Alliance Party Leader David Ford MLA, PUP leader Dawn Purvis MLA, Lord Rana, Senator Eoghan Harris and academics such as Professor Brice Dickson and Professor Geoffrey Roberts:

Madam, – As Ireland approaches the 60th anniversary of the declaration of the Republic, is it time to reconsider the country’s membership of the Commonwealth? When Ireland left the Commonwealth in 1949 the other member-states hoped its departure would be temporary. In the 1920s and 1930s the Irish Free State had played a crucial role in the transformation of the British Commonwealth into an association of free, democratic and sovereign states. After Ireland left, the Commonwealth continued to evolve.

Ireland’s membership of the Commonwealth would, we are sure, be welcomed by the unionist community in Northern Ireland as a significant gesture of reconciliation. It would add to the collaborative framework established by the Belfast and St Andrew’s agreements. It would demonstrate unequivocally that the Republic has finally drawn a line under the troubled history of Anglo-Irish relations that led to Ireland’s self-exclusion from the Commonwealth 60 years ago. It would represent a further important step along the road to a pluralist Ireland in which different identities are recognised and respected, a country that celebrates its multi-cultural heritage and diverse history.

Reform has now published a new book, bringing together a collection of articles, speeches and reports by prominent academics, authors and political commentators on the important question of whether or not Ireland should return to the Commonwealth.

The book includes articles by: Bruce Arnold, Amitav Banerji, Robin Bury, John Erskine, Roy Garland, Gordon Lucy, Mary Kenny, Prof. Robert Martin, Dr. Martin Mansergh TD, Andrew MacKinlay MP, John-Paul McCarthy, Prof. Geoff Roberts and others.

Many of the contributors are in favour of rejoining – although the book also includes a speech by Dr. Martin Mansergh TD arguing that Ireland should not rejoin.

Reform hopes that this new book will be a timely and interesting contribution to the ongoing debate on Commonwealth membership.

The book costs just £10 and can be ordered online.

 

Could Ireland really rejoin the Commonwealth?

The Telegraph – 26 Mar 2010

Campaigners believe that were Ireland to rejoin the Commonwealth, it would draw a line under the troubled history of Anglo-Irish relations, observes Philip Johnston.

One hurdle to overcome for Ireland would be a visit from the Queen.

Easter holds a special place in the history of Ireland. In 1916, the insurrection known as the Easter Rising paved the way for the country’s partition and a bloody civil conflict. In 1998, the Good Friday Agreement marked the end of the Provisional IRA’s war with the British state and the beginnings of a process that has resulted in the two extremes in Ulster politics coming together to share power.

Cemetery ‘dolt’ is a threat to everyone in Ireland

Pierce Martin Irish News

30 April 2011

The outrageous spectacle of a man hiding behind a mask, dressed in military garb, amid a small crowd of dolts, with his own menacing kind around him, issuing a threat to executean array of people − whom he, and his cohorts find offensive to the dignity of their dreamland country, in an isolated cemetery in Londonderry, on the 24th, April, is utterly repellent, and hateful.

It represents a horrendous threat by the real IRA to all citizens who live on this island in both jurisdictions, and requires not only that we refuse to kowtow to these fascist Fenian terrorists, but that we show them, in no uncertain terms by an united all Ireland demonstration upon a designated day, that we repudiate them, and wish them gone, so we can all get on with our lives, in every corner of this island in peace,
and under the rule of law.

Apropos the hideous display of terror theatrein a graveyard Joe Duffy, on RTE Radio 1 Liveline programme (April the 26th) proved yet again that he believes packing history with myths is part of his duty as a 1916 apologist.

Better though to get someone else to do it for you than stain ones own hands.

So, as if by magic an alleged descendant of Thomas Ashe turns up on Liveline and asserts that British soldiers were shooting people before the insurgents entered the GPO in 1916. This is not only a lie, but a stupid one.

There is absolutely no historical evidence of any military action let alone shooting − by the British military as Thomas Ashes relativeclaimed.

It was a holiday, and most people were away at Fairyhouse, or at various locations at the seaside. The only sounds that morning were the chirruping of birds − but even they were silenced by the gun-fire of the insurgents as they attempted a coup detat.

That is the truth Mr. Duffy, and frankly I dont care if you, or your guest believe it, or not!

Pierce Martin
Celbridge
Co. Kildare


Rejoining the Commonwealth club? C’mon it’ll be great sport

Forging international links is a no-brainer, says Eamon Delaney – after all we’re essentially British

Last week, a book about Ireland and the Commonwealth was launched in Dublin by the Reform Group, a plucky organisation which argues that Ireland should join, or rather rejoin, that ex-colonial club.

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